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volume 73 yes it's another week for us manchester. united fans where we come back and debate our

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during the show but first and foremost as always. let me introduce you to the guest the panels

it is what it is let me pick up let me introduce. you to big phil big phil big up to you brother yes

how was your weekend how are you feeling welcome. back brother yeah weekend was pretty good man

what my united winning other teams are honest. dropping points certain african cup uh teams are

out of the competition so yeah great weekend it. is two years two and let me introduce you to ms

m's big up to you bro how's your weekend you look. like here you're having a nice time relaxing yeah

my weekend was all right man like um hard work. and then sunday man celebrating it you know i mean

these are done don't that done me a favor you know. i mean being being ghanian and decent as you know

the Nigerians were getting at me so you know. when tunisia beat nigeria i just you know i i

was elated i was excited to go through that. this morning so yeah but my weekend was fun

i mean it's true i'll be honest with you i've nev. i never heard from any nigerian throughout the

whole of sunday till about this morning nothing. nothing i was like where'd the nigerians at

they ain't around but let me introduce you. to my guests of course cr4 big up to you bro

thank you and welcome to red united tv welcome. to the cat shop thank you man how are you doing

well thank you yeah good bro complaint really um. complaining about the football but other than that

bless man yeah definitely man as. you know guys we are here to talk

about manchester united we're here. to talk about that match first of all

manchester united versus western and then. we will discuss the debate of the future of

donnie van impe whether he deserves to be playing. format tonight which will be the unfiltered part

of this podcast guys but yes let's get straight. into it of course get myself straight into my scam

it is of course manchester united one west ham. new manchester united of course collecting three

points i'm so pleased especially in the last. minute a dramatic ending as they say fergie

time or is it ralph ragnick time whatever you want. to call it it is what it is match united getting

those points pleasing us manchester united because. we fought towards the nr surely not joe we can't

take a draw right now we need to catch points. against those pagan arsenal and yeah imagine that

they do that with a marcus rashford finish at the. end you know what overall manchester united showed

slight improvements from where they were from game. from game from gaming they showed a bit of control

a better pressing style for the whole second. half but yeah i'm gonna leave it there because of

course guys we're gonna dive into the to the first. off in a second off once the rest of the guys

let us know their overall thoughts of the. game and i'll move it up to you big phil

what was your fault in the game yeah this. this game was a big improvement from the

previous two games right because versus. brentford versus aston villa we were good

in only one half right i think it was brentford. we were good in the second half and asking

whether we were good in the first half right. but for the first time we actually controlled

both halves so i mean i saw slight improvement. but there's still some um things i need there's

still some things that need to be discussed. with regards to some of our midfielders

uh giving away the ball a lot there's a lot of. turnover in that west ham came right um are we

are we going to talk about individual players are. we just going to talk about the entire team now

we will get into the individual players. during the show of course once we discuss

the first and second half of that game but. definitely sure definitely glad for the

one love win um the minute the minute it. scored it i was going to run outside but

i live in canada and right now is -20 so i. had to get my ass back inside before i ran

outside right so not going to do that but. glad for the win and um you know we move on

yeah definitely i'm going to bring it up to you. ems what was your fault of the game against me

um i like to echo what big phil said i hope. you uh wholeheartedly agree um i do feel

like in terms of control it's probably the the. most controlled performance on the right nick

and um i felt like the defense the back four. in my opinion was that you know very solid

and i felt like hey we just about just. deserved the three points in my opinion

just about makes sense to me since cr4. obviously it's your debut let us know

what your overall force was about the. game where i was watching it live so

if i really think back here most of the. game they will struggle to score as usual

there's no creativity as usual but other than. that as soon as we bring on two attacking players

probably super subs at this moment. because they're not really on form

but four attacking players running up. in the last eight minutes of the game

my first

if correct me bias 11 shots two on target my. first shot also in front 56 minutes in fred

so other than that yeah i could talk to you all. day about that but let's get into it and we will

get into it of course guys let me bring us all. back into the conversation of course but yeah

we have of course manchester united went in first. off which was interesting right there because of

course it was very really really tight with west. ham and west ham had their moments in the game as

well of course again another game where we saw. manchester united unable to start on the front

four already in the first couple of minutes we. was on the back four against west end i'm gonna

go straight to you big phil what was your thoughts. on mentioning the first 45 minutes as it did

it was new new we've mentioned that again starting. on the back four yeah with the first i think it

was five to ten minutes west ham had us pinned. down right but three minutes for the remaining

of the first half it was all cruise control for. us right we we didn't take our shots there were

chances that mason greenwood could have passed. the ball to either cr or um who was on top who

wasn't thought it was cr and a langer there were. times he could have passed the ball but he decided

to take a shot at us that had that had most mine. every fan space because i've been telling people

football is played with the mind and then the rest. is controlled by your foot right football it's all

about decision making so for agree would not to. make those type of decisions in that time was kind

of um it didn't really affect us in the long run. by the end of the day we could have at least been

maybe one or two goals up when the first half was. over right um west ham did not look a threat after

that first probably five to ten minutes so we were. in total cruise control um harry maguire and and

and um baran had michael antonio in their back. pocket he did he did he did nothing he looked

he looked like a jamaican exhibit trust me he did. nothing did nothing did nothing on the day and he

was absolutely poor the only person can give kudos. to was that one rising he actually controlled

the entire game for west ham all the other um nine. or nine nine oh field players that did nothing but

you know united were in control and we entered. the first half no no and i was okay with that

yeah and of course um m's i mentioned that again. at length 45 minutes of course mentioned as well

elengo one of the players that was interested in. the first 45 minutes to watch because he did his

job greenwood as well and what was your thoughts. exactly with with um the first 45 minutes as well

i think for me personally i got a lot yeah first. company though i listen i was falling asleep i'm

not gonna lie yeah well i don't know what it. is no seriously no ways yeah when we're on

top here we need to take our chances and like. you said greenwood's being childish she might

think this is still under 18's brother he needs. to be more of a team player and i think there's

some there must be some underlying like issues. between him and ronaldo because there's been

plenty of like time in manchester square. the ball to him so i'm trying to say

and i keep thinking like i keep alluding. to that interview ronaldo had when he was

talking about the youngsters when he was young. and used to take things in like a sponge and

you talk about these these young players can't. take the criticism they think they're too good

to be criticizing that and i i have this slap. feeling yeah i might talk about mason greenwood i

don't know what you don't think but that's that's. that's that's what i'm i'm feeling you know i mean

but back to the game though i feel like like. i said when we're on top here i think we need

to take our chances man because i'm very scared. yeah that that it's going to come there's going

to be a team here that because we need to take. our chance they're going to go to the other

end and score and then um shut up shop and then. it's just one of them games where we're throwing

kitchen sink and it's just one new so i think we. need to learn to to take our time but what what

that was me sorry yeah

but like i said i think we've got. to look at it both ways and say

once one bit um we kept the clean sheet in it and. on the other side we need to capitalize when we're

when we're you know we're on the front. foot and stuff do you know what i mean

yeah absolutely and in that. second off again manchester

started off a bit better improvement can't. put in um west ham on their toes but still

couldn't really open up and get clear-cut. chances cr4 what was your thoughts because

you was there live watching the match the. second half what did you see that you liked

oh well i was i was watching it live on my. phone this game i didn't see the previous game

last couple before no no no i'm not playing um. well if i go to the first half let me see no shot

on target so just bear that in mind no shot on. target second half so we could just skip past the

first half right because it could have gone either. way i agree with both bigfoot and ms and basically

if we we're going to the final third and it takes. about i don't know seven chances i'd say at the

moment to get to that final thread if if we can't. look up and pass the ball we're going for a shot

and and i don't know about you lot don't know. about the fans but ranyik his mentality is serious

whatever whatever i've been watching myself. it's been coming out of his mouth now so

he's not saying it to the players in. the dressing room which i think he is

anyway he's saying it to us now saying. right i can see this it's happening

and it's up to the players to end their money. in it at the end of the day because that's what

it is right now they're just getting paid. to turn up they know around you because

i need these players this guy's off. in a month's time two months time

personally i wish he he stays for as long. as we the money runs dry other than that

fred having our first shot on target 56 minutes. that's all it goes so you need to know the renaldo

on the pitch and personally might sound harsh but. martial's performance was top notch out of nothing

come on as a sub but it makes me think is that. performance for himself or is it for the badge

because he's ready to go on another side. let me just stop you there cr4 because

that's an interesting topic you just said that. because martial is keen to go unknown right now

in that game of course he was very influential. in the first five ten minutes with the key pass

some people pointed out that martial was a key. factor in that call and if he wasn't there if

someone else was there they would have not made. that pass and when the throat is too big feel um

how influential was martial in that 15 minutes was. it was it him or him was it right to justify that

if martial wasn't that guy there this score would. have happened or not but even even before the goal

scored martial had two chances one one through. ball from cr but not so i went through a ball

from bruno and then another layoff from cr right. where he did have a couple of chances right so

i would say it wasn't only martial because. ragnet's all three of ragnet subs made that

goal right because it was cr to martial martial. to cavani and combining to rashford right

so all three of those subs made a definite impact. but also the three subs marcus rashford would get

most of the praise but marcus radford was very. quiet in that second half it was only when he

popped up for the score that goes when he kindly. was but he was kind of recognized but martial i

guess was the best was the best out of the three. subs um right so uh as cr4 said is he playing for

united or is he playing for a long move to maybe. sevilla or newcastle who knows right by the end

of the day if you if a club is going to buy. quote-unquote um a product from you you have

to make it look good right so martial probably. made himself look good so that he can be an

option for like i said severe newcastle i i don't. know if it would be this window or the upcoming

summer transforming subscribe for those who. are watching of course guys remember as always

remember to subscribe smash that like button. remember to share let us know what you think those

are watching on playback as well and those who are. watching live i'm going to move it up to certain

players because a couple of players did did well. it was hard to pick out some of these players of

course i've got some statistics that came out of. course i'm going to start off with harry mcguire

starting off his first game ms is kissing his. teeth already so i'm gonna have to throw this

one tip but yes i'm gonna start mcguire who came. back looked like he had a good game in my opinion

as well he didn't improve he didn't impress there. were a couple of opportunities where he blocked

and blocked an opportunity from our opposition. and that was twice a key factor in that as well

defense themselves did really well and they were. very solid as well i was really impressed with

that but of course with harry mcguire let. me get straight to statistics guys because

yep hey mcguire versus west ham i'm gonna throw. this to you m's yeah because you need to hear

this out yeah there you go 100 tackles one. which i didn't highlight that raw those two

tackles that was very important he managed to. successfully block them 66 pass is complete

nine long passes attempted six long passes. completed five aerial duels one five ball

recoveries four clearances one interception what. was your thoughts on harry maguire's performance

well done listen first yeah

bro let's not get excited here this should. be if we're putting up the standard yeah this

should be expected against west ham where he. needs to get judged is when we're playing the

last in liverpool with man city where he's. been teared to shreds which we've seen yeah

so i'm not i'm not overrating it right he had. a good game but i'm sorry quote me on this

put on this podcast while he's my united captain

or star for my united football club we are. not challenging for the premier league time

i've said it right here right now you can save. it store it wherever you want but he for what we

need to get to the top even challenge with the. title he's not the answer he know it whoever you

know can disagree agree but that's my opinion. i've seen enough to know forget the price tag

you can see on the pitch bruh that whole. one-on-one breath we've had defenders do that

for me now for years bro that's not new that's. not nothing to get excited about if that's to

get trying to get excited about i'm very worried. that's a scary scary standard i'm not gonna lie to

you know we had a good game but. listen that's one game blood

i need to see i see that 20. game 10 game i need to see more

you know you know we received anything good from. his signing like what what's he done for us please

so i'm done in regards to that of course guys. you can clearly see the way he his thoughts on

maguire whatever he does good or bad it's a it's. an attitude no no no no no no i can tell you

you praise him that he's like know what regardless. of what i can say yes he did well but i still want

you to leave bro if we can do it what the. [ __ ] the thing is yeah for me right yeah

i will say how it is i just don't think he's. the answer for us to win a tower at the back

we've conceded way too many goals i actually. believe right we had a bad defensive record

with chris moon at the back then we have him. and and that's not even saying much and we

saw smalling to roma for 10 million and we. signed this guy for 80 million that's poor

business in my opinion but hey what do i know. in it i'm just a fan and of course guys moving

on to that we have another player that did well. defensively as well diego dallow against west ham

here of course 86 percent past accuracy 86 final. third accuracy seven out of 11 jewels one six ball

recoveries four four tackles one four clearances. four attempts takes on two successful take on two

chances created two exceptions and two shots see. all four what was your thoughts on diego dallow

performance and the statistics that you're hearing. from this right now what's your thoughts on him

well the way you ended that question is how. i answer it yeah so the thoughts and the

statistics the statistics sound good but what. i saw wasn't then this he just come back from i

don't know where he's just come out the woodwork. blessing been asked to play out of nowhere

come out in good form for me. i'm i'm a big luke troll fan

someone play of the season like. few seasons ago what do you mean

because he's having a bad season. like come on don't disappoint me no

don't disappoint me don't disappoint. me don't disappoint me man let me

listen mourinho nearly killed his career for. one and then um he's finally come back from two

broken legs two or one can we stick it. to research we started talking about that

he was good he was i'm talking about luke. shaw but yeah no that was good that looks good

he's doing his job but i. like him to be more creative

fair enough of course guys moving on and forth. we'll move on to the players and of course the

immediate reaction before that man of the match. donkey of the match guys i'm going to start

off with you first of all welcome to the chat of. course um you just introduce yourself in the most

real awakening but we love that is passion that's. what it is guys around here on this show yeah

i don't know well you can attack him on the. band they bake but yes i want um first of all

man in the match don't give the match. i think i see slowly as the progression

i'm not really happy with it because. we're still coming from back full and

trying to improve in the game i just think we. should start with what we how we play second

half half of the time we play on the listing. manager we should play the first stuff like

that but the simple progression and i've since. few players he has been really playing terrible

improving a little bit and one thing i'm actually. excited about is our defense how we don't consume

that much goals from the last um regime so i think. against best time he's actually doing brilliant in

the league so far so good i think we did well just. because of the past few performances i think we're

getting there and if i were to see a player. man of the match i would give it to rashford

the reason i'm giving to rashford he's been on. the downside for very long for the past month

since last year and everyone because in rashford. and it's good to see someone who's been criticized

so bad to cop start scoring goals and i can. tell that he's building his confidence that's

brilliant and don't care of the match i will to be. honest with you i'll give it to your fans though

yeah you can feel me no there is some fans. because i believe everyone's doing good you

get me i'll give it to the western fans still. yes for me definitely man in the match for me

has to go to microsoft purely on just the way. not because i can tell you right now honestly

in my opinion watching that match not a single. read player really really impressed me so given

summer man the match was quite difficult for me. for me purely i would just give it to rashford

just for the gold nothing else cr4 who was your. man imagine if you do have a don't give the match

let us know well i probably did if i don't kill. the match right now but it's going up my head

um reading the stats that you said with maguire. he obviously had a good game but what he's been

told is to not hold the wolf about five. seconds put your hands up look around

complain there's no one to pass to an impossible. he's finally getting the ball looking up

passing he already knows he's passed it left. so i would have been hooked maguire donkey

but other than that we'll leave him alone this. time but man in the match i will give it to fred

fred it is for him and big phil what about you who. was your man in the match and also who was your

donkey of the match um i don't care the match was. michael antonio did nothing to threaten us per se

this was a guy that was you know off the not. off he was off the pace today but earlier in the

season people were saying that he would have he. would be one of the guys to challenge more masala

for the golden boot i'm like really behave right. um i hate to say this but my mind of the match

was actually harry maguire i hate to say this. because harry maguire this season nah listen m

mcguire this season has been lizzie mcguire. right but in the in the match versus west ham

he was toby mcguire right you know the one thing. m's point though is how often can harry mcguire

put in these type of performances for united. right 10 games down the road let's say in

end of february early march can hire maguire. put in that same performance from now

to the end of the season we honestly don't. know harry maguire has been a reliability

for every single match he has played i was. so nervous when i saw victor lindelof was not

starting next to varane but clean sheet harry. maguire did well and he was my manly match

yes yes yes and over um who was your man in the. match and who also was your dog i'm not gonna lie

i'm having a better heart for you at the moment. firstly i'm looking at attacking me about you sure

but for me i'm picking my lap the yoga dialogue. a good outlet on the right hand side you know

for once we're getting delivery you know what i'm. saying i've had enough of spina rooney's brother

and all them teams bro we're getting deliveries. bro you're getting ub eats deliveries and just

eating all them things before rob no delivery. non-existent bro so i have to give it to you

my lap the y'all go down oh wow yeah and then. don't kill the match yeah i don't really have

one i just thought it was just you know i just. couldn't criticize anyone give it to that way fans

they were rude they're the best in france i would. have given to luke shaw just to piss you off but

yeah big up to mebs human that says. that was man of the match for him

he also questioned harry mcguire and also. i said is this like a parody channel yeah

well you can say that you know if you watch. the rest of the stuff you're definitely going

to catch a laugh definitely but sometimes. we do get a bit serious but yeah it is what

it is and that's it guys we're moving straight. into the media players and i might say maguire

he's luke shaw's still running in his veins in. his mind yo pete sorry i said this m s don't be

upset if everyone we talked about luke shaw he. can't not blame players because they haven't got

good performance in the first like this particular. season yeah but look short been getting there

maybe this season he failed to shoot. a little bit but that don't mean you

really got you have to criticize luke shaw. made him look like that bad bad person no

he's been at the club after injuries after. injuries after injuries he's still there trying

to improve brother it's the club choice to keep. him you know and it's us fans that needs to make

sure he get back to his normal self i i like you. i like you if you gotta say something right now

say it now so i can move on i like you yeah but. in seven seasons had a good six months and you'll

tell me about you sure she broke her legs though. two broken legs one yeah one everyone's retired

now isn't it it's true he's retired now you can't. have i can't have him no more everything's gone

big up this too he's also says that rice low light. versus united and emblem out for the bruno cross

which just evaded ronaldo ricochets. a ball of threats to send him through

on areola and losses varane and a pulse who has. just over yes and of course as i was saying guys

shreya we're gonna go straight briefly into the. media reaction and managers reaction and players

reaction as we want to get straight into the. debate of course we're 30 minutes deep remember

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of the match as well who was your man the man she. was your donkey of the match but let's go straight

into it guys of course i want to start it off with. marcus rashford who spoke after the game against

bbc who said it's obviously an important goal and. such a late one it's an amazing feeling we have to

use that winning feeling we could have been better. have been a bit better on the book but managed to

get the goal we needed can use that as motivation. now mark rashford also said that when there

are two teams so close together in the table both. are fighting to be in front of one another and

today we managed to get there we are sitting forth. now some teams have games in to play but it's nice

to be in that position he also said that the win. or what's important when you get wins consecutive

wins you can really start to go on a run and. that is what gives everyone confidence i'm

going to move it straight to ragnik because i. don't really want to dwell on this too too much

ragna also said that if you score in the last. second of the game that is the best type of win a

clean sheet i think in the end we deserve to win a. few moments at the end i wish we would have passed

the ball instead of shooting from wherever um i'm. not quickly of course it is a amazing feeling to

win the last minute and ragnar is right to say. that he also said that in a few moment towards

the end he wishes that we would have passed the. ball instead of shoot whenever which which i

could say relate to has brought like bruno and. probably greenwood if you pay the whole minutes

what's your fault on that because it's nice to. win yeah i could disagree with the manager as a

manager i don't think he has to say that you don't. want to get to see your team win let's last minute

goal and you have that win in the gets excited. build your team to win game from the start

you get me like build a team or pick the team. that win game from the start not last minute

it's a good feeling to see your team in last. minute of obviously if the game been played how we

played against western but a manager saying that. i think that's the wrong choice for him to say you

can't say that build a team that goes there to. win not to get last minutes win and get excited

obviously we do excited about the win and that's. why i gave mike rush for the month of the march

but the manager shouldn't say that though i. think you shouldn't you should say something else

manager also said that i'm very pleased. for the three subs prepared the goal

and scored the goal all were involved. and that makes it even more important

i would love to have those two points from. villa park but with 17 points now we are pleased

quickly big phil what's your. thoughts on that comment right there

yeah you got you got to take it game by. game right um no no no sense dwelling

on the past you you use this momentum from both. the um fa cup win and also the win versus the

wins versus brentford and whatever i you you um. built you built you built from this here right so

um yeah let's move on from this air momentum. momentum is with us we are in the top four

um for the first time since more. probably what september i think so

so yeah let's uh move on from here uh let's see if. the team can't put in these type of performances

uh you know beyond the front. foot from minute 1 to minute 90.

yes of course and it there of course i want. to go straight into the filter section so of

course guys this is the part the next 10 minutes. once that bill starts i mean once that bill goes

we end it for the next 10 minutes unfiltered we. will be discussing donnie van der beek of course

in the group chats we've been discussing whether. donnie van der beek should be really entitled or

justify starting just because of his ability in. x y and z compared ahead of the other players

so guys i want to start it off straight away um. first of all should donnie vanderbilt be playing

did he deserve to be playing why should he be. playing and of course as well we started off

now next 10 minutes should i start or someone. else wants to start pick one yeah i don't pick

i don't pick speakers i think i think either ms. or cr4 start with this because they didn't say the

last cfo you're my guest of course let's start. it off does donny van gogh deserve to be born

okay so what's he playing in the middle yeah

so who's he started ahead of and if it's going. to be ready to be it's going to be mcdonald's

he's going to have to start ahead of mctominay. fred's still have to run around be the workhorse

but at least don is creative and i saw that in the. first two three games i ever seen him play for us

i thought wow we've got a creative player. that's gonna feed the front bench for two years

it's almost i can't know if. and no well my question is now

what do you think is the reason that he's. been benched for two years because surely

of course people always say what we have right. now the mcfred in their situation she should

be starting ahead of him well of course. we've had three different managers at six

different pairs of eyes that's seen this. guy in training and still not picking him

wow that's a statement question that one because. it basically ended it with the answer right

did you say how many guys have seen them had. them in the squad six pairs of advertisements

just say no no no no no no no. nights four oh sure michael carrick

don't get out don't count carrick how many games. did what was he looking at manager united managers

was there with ollie already same changes

he was entering manager yes he took charges of. games how many games three games forget the record

book he was no no no no no no no no no no no no. no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. no no no no no no no no no no no no it was before

i hear you all say i agree. with you but it's a bit harsh

you know if you're saying the sixth okay. let's call it five yeah it's just one in it

i hear what you're saying why why. is he not starting has he not got

the fitness is he not tough enough can. you not hack it will he be found out

that sounds like maybe the answers you. need i want to i want to go i want i really

actually going to put my hands on and that's. that could be one of the reasons either one

of them could be one of the reasons why vanda. became playing my first reason is i believe it's

internal it's political that's what vanity came. playing because there's no reason why i would say

one of mctominay i don't care how because this. is what us fans forgetting right you see money

just came into the club or they still not choosing. this player right but this same place that these

managers be choosing have they pushed us in. the league have their one game suppose they'll

be like whoa our midfield is solid we're still. criticizing the same two players every other game

but yet still we refuse to give. someone here we've seen glimpses of

like i said alango is playing marcus rashford. came from injury the media been pulling russia

out all the time but yet still they still gave an. opportunity to play still he starts covering goals

so in my point of view i don't care what he's. doing in the training session we paid 50 million

for these players right for this player right why. not give him the free full game to play at least

every single week let him play four games in. a row then me and these other fans can see

these players and you said you know what the. managers were right not to play this player

because he's not physically fit enough to play. this premier league or they must be we we could

find out something else other reasons that. is pla this manages a scene that we can't see

but all i can tell you guys is political i think. it's something that god do with the management

the manchester united management itself it's. got nothing to do with players ability to play

because we both know we've seen it played during. the pre-season right he meant matic they took care

of the midfield everyone's like wanna see much. vanderbik when he says instead what happened

did he play but it doesn't work like that. you can't just notice what i'm saying

but they gave them opportunity to play. with it no they gave opportunity to play

they give it a length opportunity to play it. rashford everybody casts rashford but he's stupid

it's not opportunity it's whoever impresses. in training and who do you think i promise

like you remember last week they said. that what i call i ain't gonna see no name

but one of the people invited said do you know how. they pick artem it's based on media he got more

media followers he's the big boss in the media. he's gonna sell manchester brand better that's

he got played and i believe that's true like i. said it's political because there's no reason

why i could put my of vanity on the bench for. max or fred which i think they're still the same

i think donnie's van der beek has been unfeared. his his career has been unfair at manchester

united because thank you as [ __ ] as flaco said. donnie van der beek can play a great match or a

[ __ ] match he's not going to be he's not going. to be on the team sheet in the next game donnie

van damme can get a 10 out of 10 in one match do. you think donnie van impe will be on the starting

eleven the next game nope not even to be you know. but nobody can show me where donnie van der beek

has played two or three games in a row starting. right nobody can see this started he deserves

you know what let me see who i can put in their. position that fred and scott cool off their head

because you see how marcus raffler had some bench. time at anthony lange's playing on marcus raffert

all of a sudden returning to form right put. donnie and they started 11 for 60 minutes

right let's see what he can do let's do let's do. that for two or three games in a row right don't

forget this is a donnie van der beek that was. a bound your nominee when he was two years ago

forget the player he's not the player that. he was that was the daddy because we made it

and i say that because all the other players. can sign they've been started so they told me

that the board signed them it's above

him that signed this player can you. how can you sign a [ __ ] pound player

the premier league needs strength power rhythm and. unable to go up and down to cover a lot of grounds

every week

bro yeah we've got yeah a scottish man. playing center back for scotland but

we're playing his name in fast bro is. that like standing on my football club

we got this guy i don't bring this. guy obviously he's got passion

he's seen it i'm attacking the house

i've seen this guy

yeah i agree we're going to. sell we've got to tell it

but as i said let me i want to add. some things here because of course

again you keep saying that we should. try them and all that kind of stuff

we've got a new manager he's also not looking at. donny van der beek what is donnie van der beek

doing in training that's not a new manager. no no no no no no no no no no i'm sorry i'm

sorry i'm money entry manager whatever you. call it a new manager came in to take charge

you're here to improve things yeah he has. it decided to ignore donnie van peek in

midfield he you hear him speak no no let. me finish this let me ask you one question

one question one more question. once it relates to what

is

exactly thank

don't use media as an excuse a man chooses. his thirst 11 based on what our manager is

getting our own manager is not getting bullied

he's not good enough

it's not good enough the reason why you've been. here for two years and you know exactly what you

need to do to get into team you've heard that him. say in interviews only told me exactly what i need

to do to get it well despite whether whether. he meant to buy him or not buy him if he was

good enough whether he didn't want him or not want. him you would be playing him regardless because he

but you just

this airplane hasn't landed yet in the airport. let me let i'm still coasting you trying to make

me crash huh anyway it's not not toxic turbulence. as i was saying yes he's been here for two years

no no no let me finish off let me finish off let. me finish up you guys can talk after he's been

here for two years yeah he knew exactly what. to do to actually get into the starting eleven

we've heard him on interviews exactly so if he was. good whether a man likes him or not eventually out

of your own ego if you can clearly see that this. guy's better than you you'll play him because it

benefits your job you're in a job for the long. term and you have to win why hasn't he been

being selected as soon as the other guy left and. someone else came in and he still went for exactly

the same people why because when i've watched. johnny vanity play he doesn't cover the grounds

much he's not in the key position where he plays. a one pass to him regardless of what he's had the

is academy blah blah blah this and that doesn't. matter doesn't matter this is manchester united

he hasn't been able to adapt to where he is he. can't he doesn't have the premier league rhythm of

going up and down no no no no i've seen him. play and it's not a lot and it's those ones

you saw glimpses and you're making your choices. based on glitches glimpses you're making judgment

best majority of the time has it been so. great this is the same money by the beat that

you're making blind best some glimpses. listen he's been here for two years

and he's ahead of scott mctominay and make friends

i'm telling you this is football

logic eric bai does not get c over victor lindelof

where but who's the better defender people. say everybody guys made the same example

but he's not playing he's been injured a lot. so for them to be placed our body has not

been injured for the last two seasons no he's. been injured no you tell me i'm telling you

one of the most injured players and

listen back to donnie yeah back. to the yeah can i just say here

my brothers i believe i i believe what both we are. saying could be true might not be true so i'm on

defense political i'm not sure i worry and i'm not. really i'm not really sure about the whole he's

not good enough because i haven't i haven't been. it one sec once ever i haven't been able to see

what he's about in three and a half minutes you. guys have to see what he's when he's had them one

minute and 37 seconds to run around in the field. at 89 minutes which i find hugely disrespectful

don't care who you are you're brought on from. 83 minutes 86 minutes 89 minutes here 90 minutes

go run around if that's not telling you to leave. then you tell me is he good enough is it political

is he strong enough is he stronger than mctominy. no is he better up here than what tommy i think

so you don't have to tell me you don't have to. be physical you know to play in the pl ozil ozil

so you can have your own man there yeah but. then you've got fred who is our defensive

man midfielder and assistant and scoring goals. doing striking jobs if we have edison let me

tell you you got like this here if you ever if. you're ever playing an oppo as a man united fan

and they have edinson cavani and. christian ronaldo up front up top

and telling me you're not praying thank. you that morning i see our for god bless

you brother allah bless you thank you. and jesus god bless you my brother yes

you guys are not asking yourself the real. question can i get you the real question

they said jim i would still. remember it was against aston villa

when we drew tt right sanchez wasn't. even on the on the bench you know bro

yes it's a whole new reference it make reference. to what i'm about to say i'm just trying to make

reference they said we didn't have a midfielder. or someone that comes and changed the game for

us but we spent 70 million plus on sancho. where he didn't even make the team list

so why would vanderbilt start if they've put in. mctominay fred in front of him like literally

why would why would why would vanderbilt play. if the club chooses to play mctominay and fred

we've got a player that we will the reason. why we even signed van der beek was because

we didn't sign on sancho the season before. so ins for the club to say okay in the world

we didn't get sanctuary was not getting. grilled ended up getting a little something

it was someone no because we. missed that on the mints we

to play midfield they gave him donnie van der beek

because of the situation. okay so why did you set up

no you you're just taking pictures no. no no no no no this don't make sense no

i said the club brought us vanderbilt should. we play because because we missed on the side

i could say one thing and one thing only right. because don't don't get me wrong there have been

three managers um that have not given the only. van to beat the chance right let's fast forward

to the summer let's say we do sign last time all. right let's say eric and i become the full-time

magnetic manager if eric 10 height does. not give doc unless donnie vanderbilt

is still here if eric 10 height a guy who. brought donnie van to beat into the ayaxes

does not give donny van der beek any start then i. would say but donnie van impe is not good enough

unfortunately 55 minutes and obviously we. have to end the day of course um as always

guys um thank you for tuning in we can always do. another part two because of course not even but

the next unfiltered is next week guys no it's. not because we're not even playing this week

we resume on the catch-up i believe on the. 14th i think so i'm not too sure in two weeks

we shall see it's international weeks but we. resume guys but as always thank you guys for

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